Tobacco that bad?
Then maybe quit living in the city. All the pollution. Don't ever be a little overweight either. Cut out all the sugar. And don't take anymore risks.
The people that rant about tobacco use don't realize how many unneccessary risks they take in their daily lives. But too many are thinking EVEN THE MODERATE USE OF TOBACCO IS FAR WORSE THAN MOST DAILY ACTIVITIES.
And don't dare mention about the second hand smoke issue. Those of you that live in the city smell carbon dioxide from cars all the time. Okay? Have you ever been around a campfire? Have you ever cooked on a barbecue? Have you burnt incense in your house?
Do you live in a house that have extra insulation? You know that over-exposure to dust and pet danger can cause reperatory problems?
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It's not tobacco (or perhaps even that marijain stuff) that's bad; jsut the crap they stuff into it. (just like the crap they stuff our food with)
b(If you grow it yourself, if it's natural, go with it.)
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". unfortunate by-products of something whose benefits overwhelmingly mitigate the risks"
[Sure: renting $850/month for a one-room appartment sounds like great economic sense to me (phhhttt!!),
People eat sugar because it's addictive - not because it's "nourishing" - if "nourishment" were why ppl ate it they'd be eating hemp foods and quinoa. Insulation saves money on energy bills; but so does alternative insulating technologies without the threat of poisons that are traditionally used in the mass-marketed insulations.
Pets also bring bites, scratches, dead birds, piles of crap, dander, fleas, ticks, vet bills (no economic benefit for a "participant" there.)
Sure, it may "mitigate" the risks, but the risks are STILL THERE - it is still up to the individual and his personal set of responsibilities to choose at which level to accept those risks.]
".direct economic benefit for the participant whereas smoking provides the participant zero economic benefit."
[And just how does buying ANY consumtive article provide ANY economic benefit for ANYONE?? That's just idiocy to say that.
You buy something to be consumed (iced cream, flour, gas) you lose money. (If not, it's a commodity.) What you get out of it is whatever you get out of it. Let this Joe have his freedom like the
freedom you've got to get your personal jollies.]
".you [don't] get to do whatever you want with your body all the time"
[Sorry to hear that. What dictator are you suffering under? Or do you enjoy freedoms you're not allowing others? If you see fit to lock him up for hurting his own body, then lock him up in yur own &*% garage and feed him with your own food cuz I don't want to foot the bill for someone who's doing nothing other than
living with (and exercising/growing) their own conscience!
He has lung cancer - how did you know that? Because he has cancer-causing agents in his insulation?
".sucking up resources. otherwise .used elsewhere" Used elsewhere as in the treatment of ppl too lazy to squeeze their *&$n @#$e$ out of their armchair? (The ppl addicted to their sugar highs and big max?) aww, poor poor society.]
yes taboco is badddd
Yuck. This stuff is in cigs not my incense.
Arsenic used in rat poison
Acetic Acid hair dye and photo developer
Acetone main ingredient in paint and fingernail polish remover
Ammonia a typical household cleaner
Benzene rubber cement
Cadmium found in batteries and artists' oil paint
Carbon Monoxide poison
Hydrazine used in jet and rocket fuels
Formaldehyde used to embalm dead bodies
Hydrogen Cyanide poison in gas chambers
Napthalenes used in explosives, moth balls, and paint pigments
Nickel used in the process of electroplating
Phenol used in disinfectants and plastics
Polonium radiation dosage, equal to 300 chest X-rays in one year
Toluene embalmer's glue(1)
Those things you mentioned are bad.yes, but that doesn't mean that tobacco is okay. It's still bad, too!
Yeah, tobacco is bad. It is the number one preventable cause of death. However, I think chronic drinking is much worse in the short-term.
It takes years to develop harm from tobacco, but the problem is it is addictive.
I do get tired of people complaining about tobacco, though. It's not that they really care about you, it is just something they can talk down to you about and it makes them feel better for some reason. It's like skinny people telling fat people to lose weight. Do they REALLY care about that person's health?
Two problems with your arguments:
1. Just because there are other, somewhat (and I'm using the term loosely here) related problems that are like smoking doesn't mean that smoking gets a free pass.
2. Many of the other things you mentioned are unfortunate by-products of something whose benefits overwhelmingly mitigate the risks. People live in cities because it makes economic sense, people eat sugar 'cause it is nourishing, insulation saves money on energy bills, pets bring people happiness and companionship.
The majority of items you're comparing have a direct economic benefit for the participant whereas smoking provides the participant zero economic benefit.
I will however, agree with you about the issue of obesity. While food does nourish, it's clear to anyone who's honest that we Americans eat way too much food and exercise far too little. Some fast food restaurants have added menu items because it is clear that a real political movement against fattening foods is gaining ground. Plus, you have to recognize that a great many considerable changes in foods at the grocery store have occurred as a result of concerns over obesity.
Sorry, I don't buy the uber-libertarian view that you get to do whatever you want with your body all the time. Irrespective of a socialized or privatized medical system, you're still sucking up resources to treat lung cancer that would have otherwise been used elsewhere. Ultimately society (via the lowered supply in the market) pays a price.
I think what makes smoking such a hot target is that for years tobacco companies outright LIED to consumers about the health risks, and that it is addictive. Sorry if someone got all up in your butt about you smoking, I'd find that irritating too, but once you get over being lectured, ya gotta admit that smoking is a pretty dumb habit.
Tobacco is a natural insecticide. I take a plug of tobacco, drop it in a bucket of water overnight, and spray it on my garden. No insect is immune to it. Campfire smoke will only chase bugs away for awhile.
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